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[CLockWoRK]

I know everyone's gotta start somewhere, but if you're new to the game, and you know you're relatively new, please don't argue rulings with me especially without proof. Or what's even worse are veterans of the game, or elitists, that will not stop arguing until you're fed up and leave; without even a link proving his/her case. So, since we've all been there, describe a scenario you remember of the most ridiculous argument over a ruling you've ever heard. Go!

[Elliot Gale]

I like to think I generally know my stuff, having judged at a handful of regionals and even a YCS, so yes, it's pretty annoying to me when I encounter someone who is obstinate about basic scenarios and/or fails to properly read cards.

You would not believe the number of people who make errors in regard to Phantom Skyblaster, be it skipping the second effect entirely and thinking the restriction on it is applied to the first, or thinking it counts their monsters rather than mine. I guess I should expect as such when the card has seen virtually no serious play in its life, but it's still pretty silly.

Missing the timing seems to still go over the heads of many for some reason. It's all the more irritating when I have to explain it on the fly to a HERO player who's Shining gets screwed up by using shenanigans on the chain.

Or the whole batch of people that seem to think splurging dudes then using Duality/Scapegoat/etc. is okay, but those tend to be the very new players of which you speak. lol

[CLockWoRK]

Lol yup. And this topic's not to say I'm some all-knowing YGO being, but if I'm wrong (having been proved so), I'll admit it. Or if I'm right, I'll go get proof (a link, a judge, etc). It's just beyond me how many people keep arguing. It's hard to overcome a murder-case with your fingerprints on the Glock -.-

[Joostdegrote]

Ok, here goes.

I once dueled on DN(dumdumDAAAA) and this dude started of by saying that Junk Warrior doesn't get a attack boost when Doppelwarrior was used as a Synchro material. Right. So finally I got that into his mind.  Sadly, Later on that vey turn I Synchro summoned Armory Arm.

And here comes the thing.
He claimed I could not equip it to Junk Warrior.
I asked for reasoning, and he told me to read the card. - Right. Been there- done that. I still dont see it.

I asked him what line of the card would make the difference in this situation - No real awnser - told me to read the card again.

So I just kept on asking why I could not equip it, but he couldn't give any prove at all, yet didn't want me to play it. *sad face*

Yeah. Those kind of people make me sad. So full of themselves, thinking they know it all, meanwhile misplaying and "cheating" all the time.
Right. He was playing Six Sams, so maybe he was just a want-to-win-meta-whore   (*runs*)

[redeyeszack84]

Honestly, I haven't had issues with "noobs".  It can be a bit frustrating sometimes haveing to talk them through things though.  Its often the "pro" players who view everyone but themselves as noobs that gets me.

[Gravity]

I agree with you on that one redeyeszack. Players like that are probably cheaters anyway and they use that obnoxious attitude as a way of covering it up. idk lol

[CLockWoRK]

Yall won't believe this one...

I was running my Agents atm. I had Agent Earth on the field, and I attempt to attack.
He chains Dimensinoal Prison, I chain Solemn Judgement. Then he chains Solemn Warning. So after your laughter dies down,

Here's the chat log:

ClockW0RK: ??
ClockW0RK: cant Warning a olemn
ClockW0RK: *SJ
anyrain: read warning
ClockW0RK: It negates any summon
ClockW0RK: or spell/trap/effect THAT INCLUDES
ClockW0RK: special summoning
anyrain: angated summon of a monster summon OR the actuvation od a spell and trap card
anyrain: OR
anyrain: think the OR mean
ClockW0RK: nah
ClockW0RK: if it worked that way
ClockW0RK: everybody would run 3
ClockW0RK: unless its semi limited
ClockW0RK: i forget
ClockW0RK: So no
ClockW0RK: u cant negate SJ with Warning
anyrain: in the or is in the sentence
anyrain: that is a another effect
ClockW0RK: ok
anyrain: then,
ClockW0RK: if hyou can find proof
anyrain: warning is two mean
ClockW0RK: that you can negate ANY spell/trap/effect
anyrain: first
ClockW0RK: with Solemn Warning
ClockW0RK: link me
anyrain: nagated summon
anyrain: second
anyrain: nagated spell and trap
ClockW0RK: nah it doesnt work like that
ClockW0RK: Go find proof
ClockW0RK: that you can negate any spell
ClockW0RK: trap
ClockW0RK: or effect
anyrain: i think you learn english first then play this game
ClockW0RK: lmaoo
anyrain: yeah
anyrain: TRAP
ClockW0RK: ok since you wont
ClockW0RK: let me go find a link
anyrain: you don't english..
ClockW0RK: http://yugioh.wikia....:Solemn_Warning
ClockW0RK: read that plum
anyrain: i know that you know that this timming?
anyrain: oh
anyrain: syupid guy
anyrain: close this game YUGIDH
ClockW0RK: huh?
anyrain: bad chitter
anyrain has left the duel

AND he A.S.S.ed me. What a cool guy

[Narikku]

Gravity, on 24 June 2011 - 01:25 AM, said:

AND he A.S.S.ed me. What a cool guy

What an A.S.S.

Nah, seriously though, the same shit happens in real life. All you need to do is say, "Dude, I'm a Judge. xD" and it usually fixes the problem. If it doesn't, go to the main chat on DN. They aren't exactly the BEST at rulings, but they know their shit better than n00bs. It'll at least solve the problems.

Edit:  Oh, and your reasoning was bad, no offense. :s Everyone does run 2 Solemn Warnings. xD

Also,

Quote

You cannot negate the activation of a card that cannot Special Summon a monster, such as Lightning Vortex.

LOL lrn2YGO n00b. (Not you, other guy. The A.S.S.)

Edited by Narikku, 26 June 2011 - 12:00 PM.

[Stomach The MachoPony]

i never have that problem cause 9 times out of 10 on YVD the guys that Sound Serious are Good and if you specify no n0b0s you dont get any n00bs

and on DN if you play rated your safe cause all the n00bs hang in Unrated

[LvK]

I like to argue about rulings a bit because I don't know them well, and I try arguing to understand them better. I get the advanced rulings wrong on a regular basis, especially missing the timing, since I'm still not sure what cards can and cannot miss it, and how I can tell.

[CLockWoRK]

Narikku, on 26 June 2011 - 11:51 AM, said:

Gravity, on 24 June 2011 - 01:25 AM, said:

AND he A.S.S.ed me. What a cool guy

What an A.S.S.

Nah, seriously though, the same shit happens in real life. All you need to do is say, "Dude, I'm a Judge. xD" and it usually fixes the problem. If it doesn't, go to the main chat on DN. They aren't exactly the BEST at rulings, but they know their shit better than n00bs. It'll at least solve the problems.

Edit:  Oh, and your reasoning was bad, no offense. :s Everyone does run 2 Solemn Warnings. xD

Also,

Quote

You cannot negate the activation of a card that cannot Special Summon a monster, such as Lightning Vortex.

LOL lrn2YGO n00b. (Not you, other guy. The A.S.S.)

Yea I know I messed up my logic I tried to edit that part out but I forgot lmaoo you caught me xD

[Elliot Gale]

LvK, on 26 June 2011 - 06:40 PM, said:

I like to argue about rulings a bit because I don't know them well, and I try arguing to understand them better. I get the advanced rulings wrong on a regular basis, especially missing the timing, since I'm still not sure what cards can and cannot miss it, and how I can tell.

"When... you can..." effects, as well as all manner of spells and traps that must respond to a specific event. This is because they must be activated at that precise moment in time (When); waiting is not an option.

Mandatory effects must happen, so they activate as soon as they can, even if they do have to wait.

[CLockWoRK]

Iron stomach, on 26 June 2011 - 03:01 PM, said:

i never have that problem cause 9 times out of 10 on YVD the guys that Sound Serious are Good and if you specify no n0b0s you dont get any n00bs

and on DN if you play rated your safe cause all the n00bs hang in Unrated

If you think a sentence under your host duel, or the Rated section will save you from elitist noobs, you're gravely mistaken lol. I wish that were the case, but morons have no area code, they live everywhere

[redeyeszack84]

The whole arguement of rulings isn't what makes me laugh.  Its the constant insult towards YOUR English... when the guy seems to have about as good of a grasp on the language as an illegal immigrant two weeks in the country...


anyrain: i think you learn english first then play this game  (Proper use of English would be: I think you should learn english first then play this game)
ClockW0RK: lmaoo
anyrain: yeah
anyrain: TRAP
ClockW0RK: ok since you wont
ClockW0RK: let me go find a link
anyrain: you don't english..  (Proper use of English: You do not seem to understand English. English is a language/Nationality, not an action.  You cannot do English at all.  No one can.  Well, unless you use the "do" in a dirty sense...)


But this is a classic example of people only reading what they want to read on a card, putting full faith in flawed logic, and then retracting and insulting you as a defense mechanism to their own humiliation.

[CLockWoRK]

redeyeszack84, on 27 June 2011 - 02:21 AM, said:

The whole arguement of rulings isn't what makes me laugh.  Its the constant insult towards YOUR English... when the guy seems to have about as good of a grasp on the language as an illegal immigrant two weeks in the country...


anyrain: i think you learn english first then play this game  (Proper use of English would be: I think you should learn english first then play this game)
ClockW0RK: lmaoo
anyrain: yeah
anyrain: TRAP
ClockW0RK: ok since you wont
ClockW0RK: let me go find a link
anyrain: you don't english..  (Proper use of English: You do not seem to understand English. English is a language/Nationality, not an action.  You cannot do English at all.  No one can.  Well, unless you use the "do" in a dirty sense...)


But this is a classic example of people only reading what they want to read on a card, putting full faith in flawed logic, and then retracting and insulting you as a defense mechanism to their own humiliation.

Yea it's a real shame. And oh look guys! I found another ***hole..


After I sync for Brionac, bounce his f/d backrow, and attack for game

Spoiler

Love it.

[RuneKing]

yeah @ Iron Stomach, putting "no Noobs" in your duel request does nothing really since not many people think of themselves as a noob and I get noobs in rated all the time which are usually the cool kids who netdecked a six sam deck and dont even understand how to execute a simple chain

[CLockWoRK]

RuneKing, on 27 June 2011 - 08:04 AM, said:

yeah @ Iron Stomach, putting "no Noobs" in your duel request does nothing really since not many people think of themselves as a noob and I get noobs in rated all the time which are usually the cool kids who netdecked a six sam deck and dont even understand how to execute a simple chain

Word

[RuneKing]

for me theres a misconception on the definition and use of the term "noob" as opposed to "newb".
Newb is a new player who just knows no better and is willing to learn while a "Noob" "Nub"
etc is a negative term given to a player who can be new or old but simply refuses to follow
the rules and play the game as intended and/or listen to reason. Running into the later is
very common on DN which is why I hate it.

Edited by RuneKing, 27 June 2011 - 08:21 AM.

[CLockWoRK]

kk after this one, I won't be playing "Rated" on DN for a damn long time. This is getting ridiculous..

Yall know the drill..here's the chat:

patsokoilias: reveal

ClockW0RK has lost 2000 life points
ClockW0RK: ??
ClockW0RK: i solemn warning
ClockW0RK: your Survivor

patsokoilias: eff

ClockW0RK: ??
ClockW0RK: Survivor goes rfg
ClockW0RK: and doesnt come back
ClockW0RK: cuz he never hit the field
ClockW0RK: due to Warning

patsokoilias: come back

ClockW0RK: he doesn't come back
ClockW0RK: he never hit the field
ClockW0RK: Warning negated
ClockW0RK: the summon

patsokoilias: he come back

ClockW0RK: ...
ClockW0RK: are u serious?

patsokoilias: eff

ClockW0RK: you want me to prove it?

patsokoilias: yes

ClockW0RK: kk
ClockW0RK: brb
ClockW0RK: http://www.pojo.biz/...p/t-880232.html
ClockW0RK: read th last post

patsokoilias: trava ganisou
patsokoilias: mounopano

Spoiler

ClockW0RK: Un-fuckin'-believable

patsokoilias: oi manan sou einai elvetiko turi
patsokoilias: apo to polu poutso traveli
patsokoilias: me tin mana sto kanape
patsokoilias has left the duel

I mean when will it end?

[Stomach The MachoPony]

good god so pissed he starts a Foriegn Rant